The ORM Foundation

 Hi,

when I try to install NORMA (Neumont ORM Architect for Visual Studio 2005.msi), I get an error message like "requires Visual Studio 2005"

 Here the info from the about box:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Version 8.0.50727.42  (RTM.050727-4200)
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 2.0.50727 SP1

Installed Edition: IDE Standard

Neumont PLiX Tools for Visual Studio   1.0.804.2905 2008-04CTP
PLiX (Programming Language in XML) code generation tools.

SQL Server Analysis Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Designer
Version 9.00.3042.00

SQL Server Integration Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 9.00.3042.00

SQL Server Reporting Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services Designers
Version 9.00.3042.00

Any ideas?

Thx

Thanks for your question.
Matt will get back to you about this.

In the meantime, please will you make a post with the following information:

1: Which operating system you are using and its service pack level.?
2: Which installation guideline you are using to install NORMA. (Which NORMA Release)?
3: The exact text of the error message.
4: Exactly where in the installation procedure do you get the error message?

Thanks

Ken 

Thanks for your quick reply.

1. OS Name    Microsoft Windows XP Professional
    Version    5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

2.  NORMA_VS-2008-05CTP.VS2005.zip

3. This setup requires Microsoft Visual Studio 2005. Please install Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 and run this setup again.

4. During the NORMA installation itself (Neumont ORM Architect for Visual Studio 2005.msi) "Evaluating launch conditions." PLiX for Visual Studio.msi seams to work (was installed).

Thanks

Ecki

Are you sure you have the download that matches your Visual Studio version? Do you have VS2008 or VS2005? -Matt

The November release of NORMA is now available for download from the library.
This release includes several new features and improvements on the one that you are using.

I suggest that you download the latest release and try your installation again.

Look in  Library>Tools>NORMA The Software!

Ken  

 Hi Ken,

did like you said. But alas, it didnt  change anything.

Ecki

 Hi Matt,

I posted the version information of VS in my first message.

As of the download, it says VS2005 at the end of the file name. And the error message also talks about 2005...

Ecki

Hi Ecki,

Hmmmm. Looks to me as though the "problem" may be related to your environment rather than to the NORMA installation package.

From your error message "something" is telling the NORMA installer that Visual Studio 2005 is NOT installed.

So I suggest that you proceed as follows:
1. Uninstall all the "old" NORMA stuff including PliX (Use the Control Panel>Add-Remove programs feature):

2: Check that your Visual Studio 2005 installation is OK. (including running Windows Update)
Microsoft have a "Genuine advantage" checker that sometimes blocks applications if it has not been run and your software is not "validated".
So I suggest that you run this as well.

I'm wondering if you also have Visual Studio 2005 Express installed and that the NORMA installer is looking at that.
So if you have both Visual Studio 2005 AND Visual Studio Express installed - I'd suggest that you uninstall the Express version.

3: Make a thorough study of all of the NORMA installation factors mentioned in the comprehensive readme file that Matt has included with the latest release of NORMA (November 2008).
Make sure that you have taken appropriate steps to conform to all of the requirements mentioned in the readme file.
Matt's new readme is comprehensive so this might take a while.

Let us know how you get on.

Ken

Hi Ecki,

You mention that you are running Windows XP SP2.
My version of Windows XP Pro is showing Service Pack 3.
It is probably a good idea for you to update Windows to SP3.

Ken

Sorry, I missed the VS2005 line. You will also get this message if you try to install the wrong package, but that does not appear to be the case here.

.MSI files can be difficult to read, especially since the tool used to debug them (orca.exe) is part of a 250MB Installer SDK download. If you google 'ORCA MSDN' you'll see some hits near the top where just the orca.msi has been reposted.

Anyway, the LaunchConditions table in the installer database for this message says:

(VSPRODUCTDIR AND VSTEMPLATEITEMDIR AND VSENVIRONMENTPATH) OR Installed

Which means (tracing back through the AppSearch and RegLocator tables) that the following registry values need to be found for the launch conditions to be satisfied:

• The ProductDir and EnvironmentPath values in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\Setup\VS
• The UserFolder value in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate\Item

On my machine, these entries have the following values:

• Setup\VS\@ProductDir = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\
• Setup\VS\@EnvironmentPath = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE\devenv.exe
• VSTemplate\Item\@UserFolder = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE\ItemTemplates

If the installer is failing to launch with the message you're showing, then it cannot find one of these registry entries. Please verify the entries with Regedit. However, as Ken points out, if you're missing these registry entries and/or the corresponding directories, then something is wrong with your Visual Studio installation.

-Matt

 Hi Matt,

I do hava all these regitry entries and the directories all exists. But there seem to be some entries from a VS 2008 Express installation also...

 Ecki

The 2008 path is most likely a red herring, both the VS and NORMA products install independently.

I'd need to see a log file to provide any more conjectures. To get a setup log file:

1. Open a command prompt (launch cmd.exe as an administrator if you're using Vista)
2. Change to the directory with the expanded setup files
3. msiexec /i "Neumont ORM Architect for Visual Studio 2005.msi" /lvx setup.log
4. (You can see other logging options as well with msiexec /?)
5. Attach the log file (available on the options tag)

The log file should show which values were successfully pulled from the registry.

-Matt

Ok, now we are making some progress :-)

 From the log I gatherNORMA wants a programming language installed in Visual Studio:

Action start 17:48:04: AppSearch.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding VSPRODUCTDIR property. Its value is 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\'.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:078]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding VSENVIRONMENTPATH property. Its value is 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE\devenv.exe'.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding DSLTOOLSREDISTINSTALL property. Its value is '#1'.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding PLIXSCHEMAVERSION property. Its value is '4'.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\Microsoft Visual C# 3: 2
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\Microsoft Visual Basic 3: 2
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\Microsoft Visual J# 3: 2
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:093]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\Microsoft Visual C++ 3: 2
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CompLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\Visual Web Developer 3: 2
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniLocator 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DrLocator 3: -2147287038
Action ended 17:48:04: AppSearch. Return value 1.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:04:109]: Doing action: LaunchConditions
Action start 17:48:04: LaunchConditions.
MSI (c) (E8:80) [17:48:05:359]: Product: Neumont ORM Architect for Visual Studio 2005 -- This setup requires Microsoft Visual Studio 2005. Please install Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 and run this setup again.

I thought I had C++ or s.th. but it doesnt seem so:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\SQL Server Analysis Services
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\SQL Server Integration Services
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\InstalledProducts\SQL Server Reporting Services

Is this restricton intended?

 Anyway, I'll have to wait til friday to install one of the products, cause Ionly can do this in the office (same reason I can't use Update or repair install).

Thank you, I assume it'll work then.