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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.ormfoundation.org/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Technical support</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/30.aspx</link><description>For discussing installation and setup, bugs and other technical issues with the NORMA.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><item><title>Re: Relational View crashes in VS 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2506.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:58:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2506</guid><dc:creator>Matthew Curland</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2506.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=2506</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jim, that helped me track this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In VS2010 only, if you hover over the connection point for a foreign key link you&amp;#39;ll see a move cursor with a dot in the middle. If you click with this cursor visible to start a drag you&amp;#39;ll crash when you let go of the mouse button.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We aren&amp;#39;t really set up to handle moving connection points in this view (we have no way to persist them right now because apart from the shape positions&amp;nbsp;the whole view is regenerated with the relational model) so I need to figure out what new VS2010 feature is on by default and turn it off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the meantime, make sure you don&amp;#39;t put down the mouse button when the connection-point-moving cursor is visible. This dies in the window proc and results in a bad crash, as I&amp;#39;m sure you&amp;#39;ve noticed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Matt&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Relational View crashes in VS 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2505.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:25:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2505</guid><dc:creator>JimLudden</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2505.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=2505</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I turned on the break for all and got this message:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;System.NullReferenceException occurred&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Message=Object reference not set to an instance of an object.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Source=Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Sdk.Diagrams.10.0&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; StackTrace:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.AnchorPointAction.OnMouseActionCanceled(DiagramEventArgs e)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; InnerException: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;System.NullReferenceException occurred&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Message=Object reference not set to an instance of an object.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Source=Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Sdk.Diagrams.10.0&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; StackTrace:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.AnchorPointAction.OnMouseActionCanceled(DiagramEventArgs e)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.InvokeStateChangeMethods(MouseActionState oldState, MouseActionState newState, DiagramClientView diagramClientView, ActionRequest nextAction)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.FlushInternalEventQueue()&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.Cancel(DiagramClientView diagramClientView)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.AnchorPointAction.OnMouseMove(DiagramMouseEventArgs e)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.InvokeMouseActionEventMethods(MouseActionEvent mouseActionEvent, DiagramEventArgs diagramArgs)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.FlushInternalEventQueue()&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.MouseAction.MouseMove(DiagramMouseEventArgs mouseArgs)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.DiagramClientView.DispatchMouseMove(DiagramMouseEventArgs mouseArgs)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at Microsoft.VisualStudio.Modeling.Diagrams.DiagramClientView.OnMouseMove(MouseEventArgs e)&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; InnerException: &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Relational View crashes in VS 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2504.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:17:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2504</guid><dc:creator>JimLudden</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2504.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=2504</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Trying to get a call stack by following your instructions. (I&amp;#39;m not a programmer.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Up through step #4 works fine. But I&amp;#39;m missing something in step #5, as the list of common language runtime exceptions goes on and on. &amp;#39;Break when Thrown&amp;#39; must be buried in there, somewhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Relational View crashes in VS 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2503.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:07:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2503</guid><dc:creator>Matthew Curland</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2503.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=2503</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jim,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there any way you can get a call stack? I&amp;#39;ve been moving shapes around on this diagram for 5 minutes without a blip. This is by far the most standard DSL diagram we have. The only special thing we&amp;#39;re doing is hiding the automatic expand/collapse buttons. If the exception dialog you see doesn&amp;#39;t offer detail information, which will generally show you a callstack, then try the following:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Open a NORMA file in VS and get to the point right before you crash&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Open another VS instance&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Attach a debugger to the first instance of devenv.exe&amp;nbsp;(.NET 4.0 for Visual Studio 2010)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In the Debugging tab in the Tools/Options dialog, turn off &amp;#39;Enable Just my Code&amp;#39;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Open the Debug/Exceptions dialog and set the &amp;#39;Common Language Runtime Exceptions&amp;#39; dialog to &amp;#39;Break when Thrown&amp;#39;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Continue working&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See if you can get something to throw an exception in any of the&amp;nbsp;ORMSolutions dlls. Make sure that continuing from the exception creates your problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Matt&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Relational View crashes in VS 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2500.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 20:07:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2500</guid><dc:creator>JimLudden</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2500.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=30&amp;PostID=2500</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Using a slightly-modified version of the IT Management model (available on the ORM site), I added a Relational View.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This view is quite messy, so I am moving around the tables and renaming a few of the relationships to make table names shorter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find that after about 5 moves of tables, Visual Studio crashes. It has happened about five times. Doesn&amp;#39;t seem to matter if I save my changes (except that I lose less work!). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is clearly a bug in VS2010, but I wonder if you are doing something in the graphic modules that aggravates it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Jim&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>