SBVR

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

Terry Halpin — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:06:52 GMT

Yes

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

Josue Portal — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:00:39 GMT

ORM would be very suitable for building graphical models conforming to most of the SBVR standard. Wouldn't it?

Regards, Josué

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

Terry Halpin — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:02:48 GMT

Hi Jakob

I'm not aware of a paper dealing specifically with the comparisons that you listed, though there are some papers that do discuss the close relationship between ORM and SBVR. There are many rule languages around, based on various logics, and Common Logic (now an ISO standard) is one attempt to facilitate interchange between them.

Ontology languages such as OWL also have basic inferencing capabilities, based on description logic, and extended datalog is even more powerful. I'm currently writing a series of articles for the Business Rules Journal that approaches ontology languages and datalog from the perspective of information modeling (as done in ORM, ER and UML). The first 4 articles in this series are available from http://www.brcommunity.com/index.php, with many more to follow.

Hope this helps

Terry

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

jakobvoss — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:26:47 GMT

Is there a more detailed comparision between data modeling languages such as ERM and ORM on the one side and (business) rule languages such as such as SBVR, RIF, RuleML, R2ML etc. on the other? I know there is same overlap but also some differences. Is it only the application domain or the research community or can you draw a line between the two? Can the Ontology Definition Metamodel (ODM) be seen as an effort to combine both worlds?

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

pcarbonn — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:08:12 GMT

Thank you Terry, this is helpful.

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

Terry Halpin — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:00:04 GMT

In brief, ORM and SBVR both adopt a fact-oriented approach. ORM is based solidly on first-order logic, while SBVR allows some higher-order logic interpretations ORM has a rich graphical syntax and a vast body of rigorous theory (e.g. regarding transformations), which SBVR currently lacks.

Re: How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

Ken Evans — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:47:27 GMT

pcarbonn:
When would one organisation choose one vs the other ?

Well, the answer to this question partly depends on what "The organization" is trying to achieve.

So please will you be a bit more explicit on the "problem" to which "The organization" needs a solution?

Thanks

Ken

How does ORM compare to SBVR ?

pcarbonn — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:01:27 GMT

When would one organisation choose one vs the other ? Is there a paper comparing the two ?

Thanks in advance,