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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.ormfoundation.org/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Data Quality</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/95.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><item><title>Re: Support for Visual Studio 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2299.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:43:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2299</guid><dc:creator>Clifford Heath</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2299.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=95&amp;PostID=2299</wfw:commentRss><description>I believe he means it&amp;#39;s a model made according to the features of the Microsoft &amp;quot;Entity Framework&amp;quot;. This extends traditional ER modeling by allowing compound types, which get absorbed into the table entities where they appear, so you can for example define an Address and use it  in multiple places as you can in ORM (but not in traditional ER). However, EF is still attribute-oriented, so doesn&amp;#39;t have the most important advantages of fact-orientation.</description></item><item><title>Re: Support for Visual Studio 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2291.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:03:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2291</guid><dc:creator>Ken Evans</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2291.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=95&amp;PostID=2291</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;John Saunders:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;but it is a real entity model.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK. So exactly what is it that qualifies an &amp;quot;entity model&amp;quot; to be a &amp;quot;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;real&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot; entity model?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do you see as&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;measures of &amp;quot;quality&amp;quot; that&amp;nbsp;can be&amp;nbsp;used to test&amp;nbsp;whether an&amp;nbsp;entity model&amp;nbsp;conforms to being&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;real&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot; or not?&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ken&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Support for Visual Studio 2010</title><link>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2290.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:41:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">9d039735-a311-4a8d-9c49-a0bb2572af9e:2290</guid><dc:creator>John Saunders</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/thread/2290.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.ormfoundation.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=95&amp;PostID=2290</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Ken,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The walkthrough in that blog entry (&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2010/07/19/absolue-beginners-guide-to-entity-framework.aspx"&gt;http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2010/07/19/absolue-beginners-guide-to-entity-framework.aspx&lt;/a&gt;) is a model-first approach. He is actually creating an entity model from which the database is then created. It happens that, in this case, there is little difference between the entity model, and some &amp;#39;ad-hoc classes&amp;quot;, but it is a real entity model.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would be interested in using NORMA to create a conceptual model, from which the entity model would be generated. I would probably use the NORMA-generated DDL to create the database, since I believe it will do a better and more accurate job of creating indexes and such physical-level artifacts.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>