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Relational View - different display formats?

Last post Wed, Feb 24 2016 13:35 by marcbeckers. 8 replies.
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  • Tue, Jan 26 2016 14:20

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    Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi,

     

    I was wondering if there were any plans to add an option to display the Relational View in another format, like you can choose to display your Document Window in ORM2, CrowsFootOnly, Barker or InformationEngineering.


    Kind regards,

     

    Marc Beckers

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  • Sat, Feb 6 2016 22:00 In reply to

    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi Marc

    While we do support those other display options at the conceptual level, their use at the relational level seems inappropriate. Perhaps you could describe the specific relational notation(s) you would like us to support.

    Cheers

    Terry 

  • Wed, Feb 24 2016 9:29 In reply to

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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi Terry,

     

    Thank you for your response.


    I would like to discuss the logical data model with the developers. However, they are familiair with the format you call "Information Engineering". In addition, it would be desirable if you could also generate a class diagram, but the preference is given to the first one.


    Kind regards,


    Marc

  • Wed, Feb 24 2016 10:13 In reply to

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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

     Hi Marc,

    You can generate a class model from NORMA.
    The method is explained in the NORMA tutorials.
     Ken
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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi Ken,


    Thanks.


    Apparently I have overlooked the generation of a class diagram when I was studying the labs. So I wil look at it again.


    Kind regards,


    Marc

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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

     Hi Marc,

    Regarding Information Engineering, page 320 in Terry's 2008 book contains a 1:1 mapping between some aspects of IE notation and ORM.

    You can also change some aspects of the ORM notation by choosing from the Visual Studio>Tool>Options>Entity Relationship Learning Modes.

     

    Ken 

     

     


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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi Ken,


    I am reading that book. It is a beautiful well written book.


    I already knew that option, but I was wondering if there were any plans to also add that option for the Relational View. Now, it only affects the Document Window (Conceptual View).


    Kind regards,


    Marc

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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

    Hi Marc,

    As Terry mentions in his book, Clive Finkelstein developed the Information Engineering notation and it was later popularised by James Martin with whom I used to do TV shows.

     

    As we discussed offline, James gave me a copy of his original IE documentation. In 1989, James published IE in three books that may still be available online. (e.g. Amazon). Is this the book that you are reading?

     

    Ken 


  • Wed, Feb 24 2016 13:35 In reply to

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    Re: Relational View - different display formats?

     Hi Ken,

     

    The book I am reading is: "The 2nd edition of Information Modeling and Relational Databases (ISBN: 978-0-12-373568-3), published on March 1, 2008.". 

     

     Information Modeling and Relational Databases, 2nd Edition, Cover

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Marc 

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