The ORM Foundation

Big advocate of ORM, so I am excited to try the NORMA tool, but no luck yet.  The installer appeared to work, but when I tried to make a new file of the "Object Role Modeling File" type, I got the following error:

I am running Windows 7, and have Visual Studio 2010, which was installed as part of SQL Server 2012. 

 Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

Thanks,

Bill MacLean 

I see the error dialog box did not show up on my previous post.  The box said

"The 'ORM Solutions Natural Object-Role Modeling Architect Package' package did not load correctly.

 The problem may hav been caued by a configuration change or by the instllaion of another extension.  You can get more information by running the application together with the /log parameter on the command line, and then examining the file  . . . "

 Hi Bill,

To run NORMA, you need to install Visual Studio "standard" or above.

I suspect that the version of Visual Studio 2010 that is installed with SQL Server 2012 is the not the full product version.
Please look at "Help>About" in your version of Visual Studio 2010 and let us know what it says.

You might also consider downloading a trial version of one of the "full product" versions (VS 2005,VS 2008, VS2010 or VS2012) and then running the NORMA installer for whichever version of Visual Studio that you installed.

Ken 

Hi Ken,

Here's the info from Help|About.  I think I have Visual Standard, but take a look and tell me if this version should work:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010
Version 10.0.40219.1 SP1Rel
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 4.0.30319 SP1Rel

Installed Version: IDE Standard

Microsoft Visual Basic 2010   01011-532-2002361-70870
Microsoft Visual Basic 2010

Microsoft Visual C# 2010   01011-532-2002361-70870
Microsoft Visual C# 2010

Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Applications 3.0   01011-532-2002361-70870
Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Applications 3.0

Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2010   01011-532-2002361-70870
Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2010

Hotfix for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU (KB2548139)   KB2548139
This hotfix is for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2548139.

Hotfix for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU (KB2549864)   KB2549864
This hotfix is for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549864.

Hotfix for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU (KB2635973)   KB2635973
This hotfix is for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2635973.

Neumont PLiX Tools for Visual Studio   1.0.1210.6806 2012-10CTP
PLiX (Programming Language in XML) code generation tools.

ORM Solutions Natural ORM Architect   1.0.1305.7051 2013-05CTP
Natural Object-Role Modeling Architect (NORMA)
ORM Solutions, LLC
Portions copyright Neumont University

Security Update for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU (KB2645410)   KB2645410
This security update is for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this security update will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2645410.

SQL Server Analysis Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Designer
Version 11.0.3000.0

SQL Server Integration Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 11.0.2100.60

SQL Server Reporting Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services Designers
Version 11.0.3000.0

Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU Service Pack 1 (KB983509)   KB983509
This service pack is for Visual Studio 2010 Shell (Integrated) - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this service pack will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983509.

SQL Prompt 5
For more information about SQL Prompt, see the Red Gate website at
http://www.red-gate.com
For customer support, call 1-866-733-4283.
Copyright © 2006–2009 Red Gate Software Ltd 

Hi Bill,

My VS 2010 Professional installation "Help>About" shows Version 10.0.40219.1SP1Rel - which is the same as yours.
However, I'm showing a .Net Framework version of 4.5.50938 SP1Rel - which is different from yours.

Furthermore, all of the "installed products" in my installation have higher numbers than yours.

I have put a copy of the "Installed Products" window from my VS2010 Professional installation at the end of this post.

You will see that there are several references to "Visual Studio Professional"

So it looks to me that you need to install VS 2010 Pro (or any one of the non-express versions of VS2005 -VS2008 -VS2012) 

I have asked Matt to comment so I'm hoping we will hear from him soon.

Ken

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Microsoft Visual Studio 2010
Version 10.0.40219.1 SP1Rel
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 4.5.50938 SP1Rel

Installed Version: Professional

Microsoft Office Developer Tools   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Office Developer Tools

Microsoft Visual Basic 2010   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual Basic 2010

Microsoft Visual C# 2010   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual C# 2010

Microsoft Visual C++ 2010   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010

Microsoft Visual F# 2010   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual F# 2010

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Team Explorer   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Team Explorer

Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Applications 3.0   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Applications 3.0

Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2010   01018-569-0324804-70859
Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2010

Crystal Reports Templates for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010  
Crystal Reports Templates for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2529927)   KB2529927
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2529927.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2542054)   KB2542054
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2542054.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2548139)   KB2548139
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2548139.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2549864)   KB2549864
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549864.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2635973)   KB2635973
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2635973.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2736182)   KB2736182
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2736182.

Hotfix for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2890573)   KB2890573
This hotfix is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this hotfix will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2890573.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU Service Pack 1 (KB983509)   KB983509
This service pack is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this service pack will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983509.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 SharePoint Developer Tools   10.0.40219
Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 SharePoint Developer Tools

Neumont PLiX Tools for Visual Studio   1.0.1210.6806 2012-10CTP
PLiX (Programming Language in XML) code generation tools.

NuGet Package Manager   1.2.20325.9034
NuGet Package Manager in Visual Studio. For more information about NuGet, visit http://nuget.codeplex.com.

ORM Solutions Natural ORM Architect   1.0.1305.7240 2013-05CTP
Natural Object-Role Modeling Architect (NORMA)
ORM Solutions, LLC
Portions copyright Neumont University

Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2644980)   KB2644980
This security update is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this security update will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2644980.

Security Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU (KB2645410)   KB2645410
This security update is for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Professional - ENU.
If you later install a more recent service pack, this security update will be uninstalled automatically.
For more information, visit http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2645410.

SQL Server Analysis Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Designer
Version 11.0.3000.0

SQL Server Integration Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 11.0.2100.60

SQL Server Reporting Services  
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services Designers
Version 11.0.3000.0

TTXPathNavigator for VS2010   1.0
Simple addition to the XML Editor in Visual Studio that allows you to search and navigate your XML file using XPath query.

Thanks for the info Ken.  I definitely want to use the tool!  I am going to check with a guy in our company about a new install of Visual Studio, or at lest upgrading the .NET framework.

What is the preferred version (2010, 2012, 2013) of Visual studio for NORMA?   

Thanks,

Bill

I think that you can update the latest version of the .Net framework just by downloading it from the Microsoft site.  Read this link first

NORMA for VS2013 is not yet fully tested so choose either VS2010 or VS2012.

To the best of my knowledge, there is little (if any) functional difference between NORMA for VS2010 and NORMA for VS2012.
So the version you choose will depend more on your non-NORMA requirements.
VS2012 has more features than VS2010.

You will find that in many ways NORMA is much better than VEA.
However, VEA has a few functions that are still not included in NORMA.

Ken

Hi Bill,

You're running an integrated shell version of Visual Studio, and the NORMA installation has not been tested in or targeted to this environment.

The NORMA installation in VS2010 is nominally an extension, not a package, which means that you should see it listed in the Extension Manager dialog. However, NORMA is more complicated to install than most extension packages because it is itself an extensible platform, so the set of all NORMA extensions (open source or otherwise) and code generators is not static and does not fit nicely into known registry keys provided by Visual Studio in its extension manifests. This means that NORMA needs a normal setup program to install, not just a VS extension .zip. VS changed its extension load process in VS2012 and VS2013 in a way that makes it extremely difficult to install NORMA as an extension, so it is installed as a package in all other versions of Visual Studio.

Packages in VS require a Microsoft-provided Package Load Key (PLK) to successfully load, and this attribute is still on the VS2010 NORMA package, even though it installs as an extension and technically doesn't need it. I'm guessing that the SQL 2012 integrated shell version of VS is checking the PLK in NORMA and deciding that it does not match the environment, but I'd have to see the log files to know for sure. I don't have a standalone SQL Server 2012 installation, so I'm blind on this one. Did you check the /log option as suggested in the error messages?

Maybe we can take this off line and see if I can get you a VS2010 build that works in your environment. We can try removing (or alternate) PLK's, different settings in the VSIX (extension) installation files, etc. You appear to have other extensions installed, so we have running examples to base this on.

Another possibility is that the SQL Server installation does not include the VirtualTreeGrid control, which is used heavily by NORMA and installs with other Visual Studio versions. We can easily check this as well.

-Matt

 Thanks for the good info.  I think you're right about the problem with the shell.  I am going to install the full version of VS 2012, so that should solve things.  I look forward to using the tool, because it looks like you have done a lot of great development!

Bill 

 Thanks all, I installed VS 2012 and NORMA loaded.  Tool looks very cool.  I am used to ORM but haven't used a tool for a long time, so I'll need to get up to speed on it.

 Hi Bill,

Good to hear that NORMA is now running on your system.
If you have any questions, please post them on this website so that others can learn from your questions and our answers.

Ken