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can't install Norma VS2015

Last post Wed, Dec 7 2022 16:01 by bfortiz. 9 replies.
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  • Tue, Jul 26 2022 16:36

    • bfortiz
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    can't install Norma VS2015

     After downloading the install package, unzipping, and clicking the setup.bat file, I see this error:

     

    Natural Object-Role Modeling Architect for Visual Studio 2015 Installation

    Installing current PLiX version

    New PLiX version failed to install

    Press any key to continue . . .

     

    I have VStudio 2017 - could that be the problem? 

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  • Tue, Jul 26 2022 18:24 In reply to

    • Ken Evans
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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

     Each version of NORMA is specific to the  Visual Studio version so NORMA for VS2015 will not run under VS2017.

  • Tue, Jul 26 2022 20:22 In reply to

    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

    Answer

     Expounding on this VS2017/VS2019/VS2022 versions of NORMA all install through Visual Studio Marketplace. There is no longer a separate download and traditional msi setup install.

    1. Open the Visual Studio Extensions dialog (Tools/Extensions in VS2017, Extensions/Manage Extensions in VS2019 and VS2022).
    2. Select the Online section on the left of the dialog
    3. Search for NORMA
    4. Among the results you'll see Natural ORM Architect and Natural ORM Architect (Per User). Select either package and click More Information for a discussion on the differences. Basically, Per User installs without admin rights and can update automatically, but you need to make an extra click to get IntelliSense help if you ever look at NORMA files in the XML editor. Just pick one package (do not install both).

  • Wed, Jul 27 2022 13:11 In reply to

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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

     Thanks. just what I needed.

  • Fri, Oct 21 2022 17:28 In reply to

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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

    Having issues starting a new .orm file     When I choose File/New/File, I see a list of options, including these two options:  Object Role Modeling (DB import) and Object Role Modeling File   I choose the second one, yet no blank Document window appears; however, I can do File/New and choose other filetypes and get the blank Document window

    I did uninstall and reinstall Norma to no avail  

    I am using Visual Studio 2022 

    Suggestions on what might be the cause? 

  • Sat, Oct 22 2022 16:32 In reply to

    • Ken Evans
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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

     Which version of NORMA are you using?

     Ken

  • Tue, Oct 25 2022 14:02 In reply to

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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

    When I look in Visual Studio, under Manage Extensions and search by Norma, I get four items found

     

    </> Encoding normalize tool
    Natural ORM Architect (Per User)  .... please note ... this one has a green check mark icon, which I take to mean that is installed
    Natural ORGM Architect 
    Restart Visual Studio for vs2022 preview

     

    On the item which has the green checkmark, to the right it has the following:

     

    Created By: ORM Solutions
    Version 1.0.3047.3 

      Not sure if this provides the info you asked for?

     

     

  • Tue, Oct 25 2022 17:32 In reply to

    • Ken Evans
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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

    Created By: ORM Solutions

    Version 1.0.3047.3 "

    OK - This seems to be a version recently created by Matt Curland.
    You will have to wait for Matt to respond.

  • Tue, Oct 25 2022 21:30 In reply to

    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

    Showing both flavors of the tool (Per User and the All Users admin-installed version) is problematic. The Marketplace writeup on the extensions makes it very clear this is a really bad idea (click on More Information in extensions, which also tells you the difference with the Per User version). It appears the VS team does not have schema writers with a solid foundation in ORM because they allow subset constraints in the package manifests (package X requires package Y) but do not support exclusion constraints (package X cannot be installed alongside package Y). This is really what I needed with these parallel versions of the tool, but VS simply doesn't make it available.

     What I would recommend:

    1. Uninstall the Per User version and restart VS.
    2. Uninstall the remaining NORMA version and restart VS.
    3. Pick ONE version from Marketplace.
    4. Make sure you had a clean installation.
    Note that recently I have also seen one VS installation where VS refused to install NORMA because it was refusing to install any extension. This was solved by updating to the newest VS version, which repaired the VS installation. But before we go there please just make sure you pick one of the products, not both.

     

  • Wed, Dec 7 2022 16:01 In reply to

    • bfortiz
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    Re: can't install Norma VS2015

     Even after doing all that, I still can not get a blank File/New/File/ORM to appear.  All the other file types work when I ask for File/New/File/xxx

     

    Would you by chance know if I could use a DaaS environment as a possible alternative to getting this to work? 

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