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Hi Roger, Thanks for the feedback. I was away in Greece for a week, then catching up, or I would have replied sooner.    As for clicking thru to the Roles, I've asked a few people, and this seems to be preferred, and of course NORMA works in a similar way. I will try to set it up like that. How does this sound: for binaries or ...

Or maybe, Roger, I should resist the temptation to throw a pop-up at the user.... They never got one using the "adjustable-arity" fact type shape; and why start now? So maybe try the attached version instead... Thanks, Andy

Hi Roger, Thanks for the followup. Yes, that's exactly why I had never made the "adjustable-arity" fact type shape the frame for all the fact types on the stencil. After your message, I looked again, and I still can't see any way of de-activating connection points.      So, as I headed off to bed last night, ...

You're very kind, Roger. Glad you like the improvement. You'd be surprised, as I was, at how many things that you previously asked me to do were crucial prerequisites for this improvement. So, thanks again for all your suggestions.    Version 17 is up and available. Best regards, Andy  

Hi Roger,  I'm attaching a taste of my first stab at an objectification solution. I hope you can find some time to try it out and see if you like it, and what could be improved. Regards, Andy

Roger, Here's version 2 as promised. It gets rid of the (relatively rare) intances of unexpected behavior I'd noticed. (One case that I'd cited as unexpected turned out to be just Visio behaving normally, viz. if you click on a seleced shape it un-selects it.)     However, also unexpected was the behavior you noted, ...

 Hi Roger, Thanks for the feedback. No, I'd not intended that click-dragging would not include the other, automatically selected constraints. But really, I'm not sure whether one naturally does click-dragging or not, in Visio... I'm thinking probably not, speaking for myself at least, because I tend to wait for visual clue that ...

Hi Roger, I've attached a solution to the "I forgot to select that external constraint" problem. An explanation of what it does is included in the file. It may leave out some objects you use, but it does include all the external constraints in the stencil. However, don't test it with the "Asymmetric Transitive" ...

Hi Roger, Thanks for your suggestion re objectification. I'll return to it after I grapple with the earlier one. For the moment, suffice it to say that it's basically impossible without introducing very weird and unpleasant shape behaviour, if you try to do it with just shape-sheet formulae. But I think there's probably a way to do ...

Hi Roger, Thanks for your next great suggestion. It will take me a little while to figure the best way, or even a way, of doing that. I think you may have put your finger on the biggest challenge-- how to get it not to do it when that's not what you really wanted... But I'm hopeful. I've gone ahead and posted v16, however, so ...